It has now been over a year that my email address was put on moderation (perhaps someone would like to provide a date, I have not trawled the archives). In the absence of any appeal process, I ask that this is lifted.
My most recent email to this list has yet to be posted, it has been waiting for 9 days. Waiting for several days or over a week is now the norm for my rare posts to list. Though not one of my emails has ever been rejected from publication, this effectively makes communication impossible and amounts to an effective ban after being black-balled.
Based on timing, I was put on moderation apparently due to Russavia's incivil posts to Wikimedia-l, not because of any email I have ever posted to this list that anyone can provide a link to, nor for any reason of incivility on my part. If I am to remain forever on moderation I ask that a clear rationale be given so that I can change the wording I use in emails to met whatever the list moderators believe is needed. At the current time I am completely in the dark as nobody will discuss this with me or provide examples.
Thanks, Fae
Hi all and Fae,
One, I'm not a moderator on this list. Two, I do support civility and friendly space policies, Three, let's assume good faith, Four, Fae asks to be unmoderated and or asks for a rationale for moderation, Five I would like to see a rationale myself and or unmoderation of Fae.
Have a nice and special Sunday,
Ad
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2015-05-24 14:59 GMT+02:00 Fæ [email protected]:
It has now been over a year that my email address was put on moderation (perhaps someone would like to provide a date, I have not trawled the archives). In the absence of any appeal process, I ask that this is lifted.
My most recent email to this list has yet to be posted, it has been waiting for 9 days. Waiting for several days or over a week is now the norm for my rare posts to list. Though not one of my emails has ever been rejected from publication, this effectively makes communication impossible and amounts to an effective ban after being black-balled.
Based on timing, I was put on moderation apparently due to Russavia's incivil posts to Wikimedia-l, not because of any email I have ever posted to this list that anyone can provide a link to, nor for any reason of incivility on my part. If I am to remain forever on moderation I ask that a clear rationale be given so that I can change the wording I use in emails to met whatever the list moderators believe is needed. At the current time I am completely in the dark as nobody will discuss this with me or provide examples.
Thanks, Fae -- [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Dear Ad
What exactly was that about? In what way has that contributed anything?
Puzzled,
2015-05-24 15:07 GMT+02:00 Ad Huikeshoven [email protected]:
Hi all and Fae,
One, I'm not a moderator on this list. Two, I do support civility and friendly space policies, Three, let's assume good faith, Four, Fae asks to be unmoderated and or asks for a rationale for moderation, Five I would like to see a rationale myself and or unmoderation of Fae.
Have a nice and special Sunday,
Ad
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2015-05-24 14:59 GMT+02:00 Fæ [email protected]:
It has now been over a year that my email address was put on moderation (perhaps someone would like to provide a date, I have not trawled the archives). In the absence of any appeal process, I ask that this is lifted.
My most recent email to this list has yet to be posted, it has been waiting for 9 days. Waiting for several days or over a week is now the norm for my rare posts to list. Though not one of my emails has ever been rejected from publication, this effectively makes communication impossible and amounts to an effective ban after being black-balled.
Based on timing, I was put on moderation apparently due to Russavia's incivil posts to Wikimedia-l, not because of any email I have ever posted to this list that anyone can provide a link to, nor for any reason of incivility on my part. If I am to remain forever on moderation I ask that a clear rationale be given so that I can change the wording I use in emails to met whatever the list moderators believe is needed. At the current time I am completely in the dark as nobody will discuss this with me or provide examples.
Thanks, Fae -- [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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I wasn't going to join in, not wanting to affect Fae's situation with my own, but reading the latest emails he was actually concerned with the UK list, so I'll go ahead.
Would someone mind taking me off moderation as well? I see what the issue was in the first place, and will not do it again. I think it has been much more than a year since then.
Beyond my own case, I echo Fae that there really should be some sort of process and communication with the moderated user about A) what precisely he or she did, B) whether the moderation is permanent, and C) what he or she can do to become unmoderated again.
Trillium Corsage
24.05.2015, 14:07, "Ad Huikeshoven" <email clipped>:
Hi all and Fae,
One, I'm not a moderator on this list. Two, I do support civility and friendly space policies, Three, let's assume good faith, Four, Fae asks to be unmoderated and or asks for a rationale for moderation, Five I would like to see a rationale myself and or unmoderation of Fae.
Have a nice and special Sunday,
Ad
Ad Huikeshoven
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2015-05-24 14:59 GMT+02:00 Fæ [email protected]:
It has now been over a year that my email address was put on moderation (perhaps someone would like to provide a date, I have not trawled the archives). In the absence of any appeal process, I ask that this is lifted.
My most recent email to this list has yet to be posted, it has been waiting for 9 days. Waiting for several days or over a week is now the norm for my rare posts to list. Though not one of my emails has ever been rejected from publication, this effectively makes communication impossible and amounts to an effective ban after being black-balled.
Based on timing, I was put on moderation apparently due to Russavia's incivil posts to Wikimedia-l, not because of any email I have ever posted to this list that anyone can provide a link to, nor for any reason of incivility on my part. If I am to remain forever on moderation I ask that a clear rationale be given so that I can change the wording I use in emails to met whatever the list moderators believe is needed. At the current time I am completely in the dark as nobody will discuss this with me or provide examples.
Thanks, Fae -- [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Trillium Corsage [email protected] wrote:
I wasn't going to join in, not wanting to affect Fae's situation with my own, but reading the latest emails he was actually concerned with the UK list, so I'll go ahead.
Would someone mind taking me off moderation as well? I see what the issue was in the first place, and will not do it again. I think it has been much more than a year since then.
Fair enough. You've definitely been more civil of late, so this is a totally reasonable request.
Beyond my own case, I echo Fae that there really should be some sort of process and communication with the moderated user about A) what precisely he or she did, B) whether the moderation is permanent, and C) what he or she can do to become unmoderated again.
I try to be as open and direct as possible about this when I moderate somebody with cause—as opposed to simply being moderated by default, which is the case for all new subscribers. Regardless of why somebody's flagged for moderation, the way to change that is basically the same: be nice, and a moderator will probably unflag you when you either ask or he's see you come through the queue enough to know that you'll be civil and and won't (say) hijack the list in the name of Elbonians Against Corruption or whoever they were.
Austin
Sorry, there was a typo there. I intended this to go to wikimediauk-l where I have been on moderation since last year.
Thanks, Fae
On 24 May 2015 at 13:59, Fæ [email protected] wrote:
It has now been over a year that my email address was put on moderation (perhaps someone would like to provide a date, I have not trawled the archives). In the absence of any appeal process, I ask that this is lifted.
...
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Fæ [email protected] wrote:
Sorry, there was a typo there. I intended this to go to wikimediauk-l where I have been on moderation since last year.
That's a relief. The first thing I did when I saw this topic was log into mailman, both because I was sure you hadn't been on moderation here for months, and because I hadn't been notified of any new messages in the queue.
Good luck. I'd vouch for you if I thought it'd make a difference.
Austin
I'll second that! (or third it, if that is what Ad's mail actually meant)
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Austin Hair [email protected] wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Fæ [email protected] wrote:
Sorry, there was a typo there. I intended this to go to wikimediauk-l where I have been on moderation since last year.
That's a relief. The first thing I did when I saw this topic was log into mailman, both because I was sure you hadn't been on moderation here for months, and because I hadn't been notified of any new messages in the queue.
Good luck. I'd vouch for you if I thought it'd make a difference.
Austin
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