Hello folks,
The Wikidata development team is currently working on tools to improve *list creation on Wikipedia*, based on Wikidata data.
In order to understand what could be useful for you and why, we suggest you* three examples of user scenarios https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input*, in which you could recognize some of your current uses: how do you currently edit some lists on Wikipedia, which tools or processes do you use, and what can be improved.
You can answer some short questions and add comments on our assumptions on each related talk page. This input is very important to help us understand how you edit the lists on Wikipedia, and what tools could be useful for you.
Thanks to all of you who will take a few minutes to answer our questions!
Jan & Léa
Hoi, On the talk page I have added another.. I have used it frequently and, it is a list that is updated typically every year. They are awards. Thanks, GerardM
On 29 August 2016 at 11:29, Léa Lacroix [email protected] wrote:
Hello folks,
The Wikidata development team is currently working on tools to improve *list creation on Wikipedia*, based on Wikidata data.
In order to understand what could be useful for you and why, we suggest you* three examples of user scenarios https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input*, in which you could recognize some of your current uses: how do you currently edit some lists on Wikipedia, which tools or processes do you use, and what can be improved.
You can answer some short questions and add comments on our assumptions on each related talk page. This input is very important to help us understand how you edit the lists on Wikipedia, and what tools could be useful for you.
Thanks to all of you who will take a few minutes to answer our questions!
Jan & Léa
-- Léa Lacroix Community Communication Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,
In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata / Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention Wikidata).
Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages (to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages (using WUaS's Subject Template - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin to do this? (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere, and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists to Wikipedia with Wikidata?
Shall I add a scenario D to this page - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these questions above?
Thank you, Scott
worlduniversityandschool.org
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, On the talk page I have added another.. I have used it frequently and, it is a list that is updated typically every year. They are awards. Thanks, GerardM
On 29 August 2016 at 11:29, Léa Lacroix [email protected] wrote:
Hello folks,
The Wikidata development team is currently working on tools to improve *list creation on Wikipedia*, based on Wikidata data.
In order to understand what could be useful for you and why, we suggest you* three examples of user scenarios https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input*, in which you could recognize some of your current uses: how do you currently edit some lists on Wikipedia, which tools or processes do you use, and what can be improved.
You can answer some short questions and add comments on our assumptions on each related talk page. This input is very important to help us understand how you edit the lists on Wikipedia, and what tools could be useful for you.
Thanks to all of you who will take a few minutes to answer our questions!
Jan & Léa
-- Léa Lacroix Community Communication Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hi Léa, Jan, Gerard, Markus, Wikidatans and All,
I've read at different times that there are anywhere from 3 to 100 million species (the latter would be a long list indeed!) and when you get probably to different lists at the cellular (neuronal) and nano (atomic?) levels, for example, the lists will probably get "way" longer :)
Thank you, Scott
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Scott MacLeod < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,
In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata / Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention Wikidata).
Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here - http://glottolog.org/ glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages (to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages (using WUaS's Subject Template - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin to do this? (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere, and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists to Wikipedia with Wikidata?
Shall I add a scenario D to this page - https://www.wikidata.org/ wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these questions above?
Thank you, Scott
worlduniversityandschool.org
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen < [email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, On the talk page I have added another.. I have used it frequently and, it is a list that is updated typically every year. They are awards. Thanks, GerardM
On 29 August 2016 at 11:29, Léa Lacroix [email protected] wrote:
Hello folks,
The Wikidata development team is currently working on tools to improve *list creation on Wikipedia*, based on Wikidata data.
In order to understand what could be useful for you and why, we suggest you* three examples of user scenarios https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input*, in which you could recognize some of your current uses: how do you currently edit some lists on Wikipedia, which tools or processes do you use, and what can be improved.
You can answer some short questions and add comments on our assumptions on each related talk page. This input is very important to help us understand how you edit the lists on Wikipedia, and what tools could be useful for you.
Thanks to all of you who will take a few minutes to answer our questions!
Jan & Léa
-- Léa Lacroix Community Communication Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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So are artist *catalogue raisonné* being considered?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalogue_raisonn%C3%A9
Note this exists in other languages. And there's a database here: http://printcouncil.org/search/
I have had problems with lists like discographies for music groups and musical artists -- even for super notable people (who happen to be women). Was told that an "exhaustive" list was "too encyclopedic" for Wikipedia. yep. :-(
Another instance of existing ontology that could be incorporated into Wikidata with things like Getty Thesaurus, and other existing LIS resources, etc.
Agree a video would be GREAT!
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle*
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]
wrote:
Hoi, On the talk page I have added another.. I have used it frequently and, it is a list that is updated typically every year. They are awards. Thanks, GerardM
On 29 August 2016 at 11:29, Léa Lacroix [email protected] wrote:
Hello folks,
The Wikidata development team is currently working on tools to improve *list creation on Wikipedia*, based on Wikidata data.
In order to understand what could be useful for you and why, we suggest you* three examples of user scenarios https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input*, in which you could recognize some of your current uses: how do you currently edit some lists on Wikipedia, which tools or processes do you use, and what can be improved.
You can answer some short questions and add comments on our assumptions on each related talk page. This input is very important to help us understand how you edit the lists on Wikipedia, and what tools could be useful for you.
Thanks to all of you who will take a few minutes to answer our questions!
Jan & Léa
-- Léa Lacroix Community Communication Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
Wikidata mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Hoi, Jane Darnell has created such lists for Rembrandt and van Ruysdael. Thanks, GerardM
On 2 September 2016 at 16:51, Brill Lyle [email protected] wrote:
So are artist *catalogue raisonné* being considered?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalogue_raisonn%C3%A9
Note this exists in other languages. And there's a database here: http://printcouncil.org/search/
I have had problems with lists like discographies for music groups and musical artists -- even for super notable people (who happen to be women). Was told that an "exhaustive" list was "too encyclopedic" for Wikipedia. yep. :-(
Another instance of existing ontology that could be incorporated into Wikidata with things like Getty Thesaurus, and other existing LIS resources, etc.
Agree a video would be GREAT!
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle*
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen < [email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, On the talk page I have added another.. I have used it frequently and, it is a list that is updated typically every year. They are awards. Thanks, GerardM
On 29 August 2016 at 11:29, Léa Lacroix [email protected] wrote:
Hello folks,
The Wikidata development team is currently working on tools to improve *list creation on Wikipedia*, based on Wikidata data.
In order to understand what could be useful for you and why, we suggest you* three examples of user scenarios https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input*, in which you could recognize some of your current uses: how do you currently edit some lists on Wikipedia, which tools or processes do you use, and what can be improved.
You can answer some short questions and add comments on our assumptions on each related talk page. This input is very important to help us understand how you edit the lists on Wikipedia, and what tools could be useful for you.
Thanks to all of you who will take a few minutes to answer our questions!
Jan & Léa
-- Léa Lacroix Community Communication Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
Wikidata mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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